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IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

May 20 @ 10:57 AM ET
Ian Esplen: A Look at Mocks
ottsens12
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 10.13.2011

May 20 @ 11:39 AM ET
I like Bill Placzek's because it has the Sens getting Ceci
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 20 @ 11:49 AM ET
I like Bill Placzek's because it has the Sens getting Ceci
- ottsens12


You'll like it even more when I tell you Bill has a pretty high accuracy record on predicting first rounds.
goalfie11
Ottawa Senators
Location: Sens Army, NY
Joined: 07.13.2010

May 20 @ 11:52 AM ET
I like Bill Placzek's because it has the Sens getting Ceci
- ottsens12


Me too

The mock draft before that has Ottawa passing on Ceci
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 12:11 PM ET
"Who do people what Vancouver to select"? - think that should be want.

Not sure the Canucks will draft at all in the first round if Gillis makes some eye opening deals? If they do it could be another teams pick from Schneider or Luongo.

We have an immediate need for defense and scoring more than we need a pick right now!
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 20 @ 12:16 PM ET
"Who do people what Vancouver to select"? - think that should be want.

Not sure the Canucks will draft at all in the first round if Gillis makes some eye opening deals? If they do it could be another teams pick from Schneider or Luongo.

We have an immediate need for defense and scoring more than we need a pick right now!

- LeftCoaster


Either way, trade or draft, some will say Gillis didn't do enough to get a roster player, and others will whine that he traded away another 1st round pick. Nature of Canucks fans.

I suppose if he gets another 1st rounder in a trade, he could do both, or combine the two and trade up a few spots.

edit: if Gillis keeps the pick, Sissons or Koekoek would both be great picks if one was available at 26. I doubt Gaunce will be available.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 12:46 PM ET
I have an inside source saying Gillis was going after Aaron Romes bother this year .

Wennin Rome had a great camp last year ,and is this drafts secret weapon.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

May 20 @ 12:59 PM ET
I have an inside source saying Gillis was going after Aaron Romes bother this year .

Wennin Rome had a great camp last year ,and is this drafts secret weapon.

- VANTEL

Well done sir, wonder if anyone else catches that
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
I have an inside source saying Gillis was going after Aaron Romes bother this year .

Wennin Rome had a great camp last year ,and is this drafts secret weapon.

- VANTEL

God help us.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
God help us.
- LeftCoaster

AV has a boner for him
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

May 20 @ 1:07 PM ET
I hope that Lu goes to Tampa and the 19th comes back. Take sissons with that pick. Then take Thrower or Lukas Sutter with our pick
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 1:13 PM ET
I hope that Lu goes to Tampa and the 19th comes back. Take sissons with that pick. Then take Thrower or Lukas Sutter with our pick
- I-own_da-Northwest

Chicago has 19 th pick
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

May 20 @ 1:20 PM ET
I have an inside source saying Gillis was going after Aaron Romes bother this year .

Wennin Rome had a great camp last year ,and is this drafts secret weapon.

- VANTEL

IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

May 20 @ 1:23 PM ET
I hope that Lu goes to Tampa and the 19th comes back. Take sissons with that pick. Then take Thrower or Lukas Sutter with our pick
- I-own_da-Northwest


The last BC born player Vancouver drafted in the first round turned out ok ,so Sissions may be the right choice.

Some guy named Cam Neely was the last. i heard he was an ok player.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 1:28 PM ET
After the interview with Gillis the other day I still think he wants LU for at least 3 more years. Seeing Lu's tweets as the Stombone guy ,I think he is having a good time and not to upset with Vancouver fans.I have also heard rumblings that Vancouver are still high on Nash I would not be surprised to see at the draft Kesler ,Schneider for Nash and CBJs 1 st Grigorenko a 6'3 center to play with Nash this year.

Raymond Kesler Schneider for Nash Grigorenko Boll.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 20 @ 1:51 PM ET
After the interview with Gillis the other day I still think he wants LU for at least 3 more years. Seeing Lu's tweets as the Stombone guy ,I think he is having a good time and not to upset with Vancouver fans.I have also heard rumblings that Vancouver are still high on Nash I would not be surprised to see at the draft Kesler ,Schneider for Nash and CBJs 1 st Grigorenko a 6'3 center to play with Nash this year.

Raymond Kesler Schneider for Nash Grigorenko Boll.

- VANTEL


Well, that would put two of the three players closer to home, and they could probably pick up WKRP from nearby Cincinnati, so Luongo may waive knowing what great tunes are in store for him.

Edit- oh wait, you said Schneider+Kesler, not Luongo, never mind...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 1:52 PM ET
You'll like it even more when I tell you Bill has a pretty high accuracy record on predicting first rounds.
- John Jaeckel


Let's hope he's right about Gaunce falling to the Canucks.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 1:58 PM ET
Well, that would put two of the three players closer to home, and they could probably pick up WKRP from nearby Cincinnati, so Luongo may waive knowing what great tunes are in store for him.

Edit- oh wait, you said Schneider+Kesler, not Luongo, never mind...

- 1970vintage



CBJ would have to throw in free The Ohio State tickets for life but it is doable.

Would make a decent top 9 with a UFA pick up
SEDIN SEDIN BURROWS
NASH GRIGORENKO PARENTEAU (UFA)
BOOTH SCHROEDER HANSEN
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 20 @ 2:18 PM ET
After the interview with Gillis the other day I still think he wants LU for at least 3 more years. Seeing Lu's tweets as the Stombone guy ,I think he is having a good time and not to upset with Vancouver fans.I have also heard rumblings that Vancouver are still high on Nash I would not be surprised to see at the draft Kesler ,Schneider for Nash and CBJs 1 st Grigorenko a 6'3 center to play with Nash this year.

Raymond Kesler Schneider for Nash Grigorenko Boll.

- VANTEL


Gillis is a smart man, he's not going to flip his cards face up on the table.

Luongo and Strombone are not coming back to Vancouver.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
Gillis is a smart man, he's not going to flip his cards face up on the table.

Luongo and Strombone are not coming back to Vancouver.

- Scooby_Doo



That was my only doubt ,I know you seen him leave town. : You never said how many suitcases he was toting.He may have been going for smoke meat in MTL.


The question in play is if CBJs are on Strombones list? It would make things so much sweeter.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 2:48 PM ET




‘Distinct possibility’ both goaltenders could return next year, says Gillis



During a turn-back-the-clock, sunset run for Martin Brodeur, which began at the all-star break, the evidence has been mounting the 40-year-old is not ready to retire.

When there was a mention during Saturday’s CBC broadcast of Brodeur’s brother believing the goalie is coming back, it was yet another sign this won’t be the end of his career.

Great news for anyone who has enjoyed watching Brodeur get to the Eastern Conference final. Not so much, however, for the Vancouver Canucks, because it means the already knee-high Roberto Luongo trade pool gets even shallower.

Maybe that’s why GM Mike Gillis, in an interview on Hockey Night in Canada radio this week, said bringing back both goalies, Luongo and Cory Schneider, for another season is a “distinct possibility.”

It could be posturing. Even if the Canucks felt they needed to trade Luongo, the team wouldn’t want to be desperate or be perceived that way. But don’t be so quick to dismiss it. Gillis wasn’t the only one this week hinting the Canucks goalie controversy, like Brodeur, may get another go around.

“Having both goalies back in Vancouver next year is definitely a possibility and probably the leading possibility,” Mike Liut, Cory Schnieder’s agent, told The Province.

“Cory will approach the season as he did this year — you focus on what you can control.”
It’s hard to imagine how having both back would be a healthy situation for either goalie, or the Canucks, who risk having too many resources and cap space tied up in one position where only one player can start at a time. There comes a time when a team is best served by making a decision and moving on. We’re there with the Canucks’ goalies. Sure, it’s worked for past couple of years, and worked exceptionally well, but the dynamics have changed.

At 26, Schneider, understandably, wants significantly more playing time, and battling Luongo for shifts in the crease isn’t the easiest, or smoothest way to go about getting that done. If you thought the goalie storyline was consuming and ubiquitous last season, that’s like an amuse-bouche compared to the meal people will be making of it this fall.

That’s partly why Luongo told the Canucks at the end of the season he’d be willing to waive his no-trade clause, if it’s what is best for everyone.

If the Canucks don’t trade him can’t trade him they risk losing Schneider, who could, potentially, sign an offer sheet as a restricted free agent after July 1. The Canucks can choose to take him to arbitration but not until July 5, leaving four days where other teams will be able to negotiate with one of the most coveted goalies in hockey.

Then, of course, there’s July 1, 2013 when Schneider can become an unrestricted free agent.
Losing Schneider would be like pouring a dump truck of concrete into the luggage Luongo is already hauling around Vancouver and Rogers Arena. With negativity toward him always percolating with the fanbase, he’d suddenly be the guy who cost the organization the young stud goalie. Just picture how it would go if Schneider were ever to make a long playoff run in another uniform.


Those risks can’t be too palatable for the Canucks, who want to keep Schneider for the long haul. And why wouldn’t they? He’s seven years younger than Luongo, and outplayed him down the stretch and in the playoffs this year. He also has a personality which may work well in Vancouver, where the most popular goalie is often the backup.

“He has the demeanor to play goal — calm, athletic. competitive and he doesn’t look for an out when things go sideways,” Liut said. “He blends in with the guys. It’s hard for a goalie — they’re different, don’t you know, which is why his teammates like him and play for him.”

Luongo’s postseason production is still constantly called into question. And in his past four playoffs, Luongo’s numbers aren’t exactly sparkling. His save percentages have been .914, .895, .914 and .891. Each year he’s dropped off from his regular season performance and suffered from wild swings in play. He’s had great highs, but fall-off-a-cliff lows.

It’s unfair to compare Luongo to the four goalies still playing, especially considering their backstopping more defensive teams. But they’ve all played better than they did in the regular season. Jonathan Quick has a .951 save percentage. Henrik Lundqvist and Mike Smith are both at .942. And Martin Brodeur is the low guy at .920.

But if the Canucks discover there’s only tepid interest in Luongo, it’s not because of his postseason numbers. It’s the fact his contract has him signed until 2022. With the current collective bargaining agreement (CBA) expiring in September, there will be potential suitors left wanting to wait to see what the new rules are before committing to pay out all that money.

For example, Luongo doesn’t have a no-movement clause, and one of the advantages of his contract was that you could “bury” it in the minors during the final years, if he doesn’t retire. But there is a movement being pushed which won’t allow teams to bury contracts under the new CBA.

While exchanging emails with Liut, who was in Helsinki this week for the world championships, the agent was asked if he would consider a multi-year deal for Schneider if Luongo is still a Canuck.

“Roberto has been very good to Cory, he is a veteran secure in his ability and has helped Cory learn what it takes to play goal in the NHL. Beyond that, of course Cory wants to play more and that can’t happen with, as you say, two great goalies in Vancouver,” Liut said.

For now, Liut said “when, where and how it happens - that Cory plays more - for the most part - is out of his hands.”
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pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
I have an inside source saying Gillis was going after Aaron Romes bother this year .

Wennin Rome had a great camp last year ,and is this drafts secret weapon.

- VANTEL


Putin from Chopper 9 comfirms this.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
After the interview with Gillis the other day I still think he wants LU for at least 3 more years. Seeing Lu's tweets as the Stombone guy ,I think he is having a good time and not to upset with Vancouver fans.I have also heard rumblings that Vancouver are still high on Nash I would not be surprised to see at the draft Kesler ,Schneider for Nash and CBJs 1 st Grigorenko a 6'3 center to play with Nash this year.

Raymond Kesler Schneider for Nash Grigorenko Boll.

- VANTEL


Not a bad idea here. I do think we could get more, but maybe that's just me. Also I'd think if we were drafting a C at #2 it'd be Galchenyuk. If the scouting report is correct on Grigs, we really don't need someone with questionable work ethic and heart on this team.
howamidointhis
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 20 @ 2:50 PM ET
After the interview with Gillis the other day I still think he wants LU for at least 3 more years. Seeing Lu's tweets as the Stombone guy ,I think he is having a good time and not to upset with Vancouver fans.I have also heard rumblings that Vancouver are still high on Nash I would not be surprised to see at the draft Kesler ,Schneider for Nash and CBJs 1 st Grigorenko a 6'3 center to play with Nash this year.

Raymond Kesler Schneider for Nash Grigorenko Boll.

- VANTEL


What would you think about this scenario? Luongo to tampa for lecavalier. Then go ahead and trade kesler, your 1st rounder and a 3rd asset to CBJ for nash.

Top 6 would be

sedins and burrows
nash lecavalier booth

thoughts?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 20 @ 2:52 PM ET
"Who do people what Vancouver to select"? - think that should be want.

Not sure the Canucks will draft at all in the first round if Gillis makes some eye opening deals? If they do it could be another teams pick from Schneider or Luongo.

We have an immediate need for defense and scoring more than we need a pick right now!

- LeftCoaster


I agree with this completely.
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